Open Sky and West Palm Beach

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Anonymous

Open Sky and West Palm Beach

Postby Anonymous » Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:27 pm

It is so great to hear that West Palm isn't falling into the Open Sky trap and are leaving their options open.

While the IG report isn't totally damaging to the system and the MPSCC management, there are still many unanswered questions that require deeper investigations and why do 69% of the officers in Atlantis, Juno, Jupiter, and Gardens feel unsafe using it and why hasn't this been brought up through the PBA over the last few years? Administrative pressure maybe?

Personally I believe that the City should join the County even if they are analog, but you can read and decide for yourself.

[url=http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/crime-law/opensky-police-radio-system-gets-mixed-review-in-i/nTKZt/]http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/crime-law/opensky-police-radio-system-gets-mixed-review-in-i/nTKZt/[/url]

[url=http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/westpalmbeat/2012/11/inspector-generals-opensky-police-radio-report-to-be-released-this-afternoon/]http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/westpalmbeat/2012/11/inspector-generals-opensky-police-radio-report-to-be-released-this-afternoon/[/url]

[url=http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/region_c_palm_beach_county/west_palm_beach/inspector-general-finds-problems-with-police-radios-contract-and-tax-dollars-wasted]http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/region_c_palm_beach_county/west_palm_beach/inspector-general-finds-problems-with-police-radios-contract-and-tax-dollars-wasted[/url]

[url=http://www.pbcgov.org/oig/pdf/reports/2013-A-0001_OpenSky_Final_Report.pdf]http://www.pbcgov.org/oig/pdf/reports/2013-A-0001_OpenSky_Final_Report.pdf[/url]
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Anonymous

Open Sky and West Palm Beach

Postby Anonymous » Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:28 pm

Im not a LEO but work in public safety business and have several friends whom work for Jupiter and Juno PD. All of them have said two things in common:
1) This new Open Sky system which was lead and pushed thru by the City of PBG is exremely undependable and have had many occasions upon which they have been unable to transmit, including when calling for 94
2) Been told by their superiors to not say a word about any problems they may be having with this new system, and if they do expect backlash

Makes me curious as to whom is in whoms pocket on this whole project
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Anonymous

Open Sky and West Palm Beach

Postby Anonymous » Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:46 pm

[quote="Anonymous"]Im not a LEO but work in public safety business and have several friends whom work for Jupiter and Juno PD. All of them have said two things in common:
1) This new Open Sky system which was lead and pushed thru by the City of PBG is exremely undependable and have had many occasions upon which they have been unable to transmit, including when calling for 94
2) Been told by their superiors to not say a word about any problems they may be having with this new system, and if they do expect backlash

Makes me curious as to whom is in whoms pocket on this whole project[/quote]


thats cause the chief tells all the residents that the system is just GREAT and there is no problem and it's just the PBPost screwing with them. at all these community events. pure BS. the system is awful and the tax payers of our city is paying TWICE for a radio system.
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Anonymous

Open Sky and West Palm Beach

Postby Anonymous » Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:05 pm

This is beyond horrible. When a LEO dies because his radio/signal was malfunctioning while trying to get 94, there will be law suits beyond anyone's wildest dream. We're talking agencies, Harris RF Communications, M/A-COM Inc., and a lot of people who have said that there were no issues when it will be proven to be a lie.

What will it take, a LEO's life to change? PBSO better not do this. For the sake of our Deputies'.
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Anonymous

Open Sky and West Palm Beach

Postby Anonymous » Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:37 pm

[quote="Anonymous"]This is beyond horrible. When a LEO dies because his radio/signal was malfunctioning while trying to get 94, there will be law suits beyond anyone's wildest dream. We're talking agencies, Harris RF Communications, M/A-COM Inc., and a lot of people who have said that there were no issues when it will be proven to be a lie.

What will it take, a LEO's life to change? PBSO better not do this. For the sake of our Deputies'.[/quote]

You don't have to worry about PBSO going down this path. I'm sure the County is much smarter than this and just recently approved a replacement project that will extend the life of the current system to at least 2018, if not 2020, according to one of the more recent County Board meetings. At that point I believe the technology will be much different and Open Sky will be dead and gone.

Even though the county was a bit behind the times to transition from VHF to 800 MHz in 2001 which is when we switched, I believe they made the right move and I have yet to find an agency that doesn't have the LE Commons in their radios. Heck I even ran into a Deputy US Marshal not too long ago that has a very new Motorola radio and he has direct access to the system to include all of the Commons and the encrypted TAC talk-groups. I was very suprised to see that.

The County website says that it has 70+ agencies on the system, but it doesn't state exactly who those agencies are. [url=http://www.pbcgov.com/fdo/ess/radio/]http://www.pbcgov.com/fdo/ess/radio/[/url]
The Managers name looks very familiar. Did he work for PBSO at one time?
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Anonymous

Open Sky and West Palm Beach

Postby Anonymous » Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:50 pm

[quote="Anonymous"]Im not a LEO but work in public safety business and have several friends whom work for Jupiter and Juno PD. All of them have said two things in common:
1) This new Open Sky system which was lead and pushed thru by the City of PBG is exremely undependable and have had many occasions upon which they have been unable to transmit, including when calling for 94
2) Been told by their superiors to not say a word about any problems they may be having with this new system, and if they do expect backlash

Makes me curious as to whom is in whoms pocket on this whole project[/quote]

Same thing happened to FHP when the Motorola system was replaced by M/A Com. I know a now retired Major in State Fish & Wildlife who told me that they all had to sign NDA's about commenting to anyone how well or poorly the system worked. I wonder if the same holds true for Jupiter, Juno, Palm Beach and Gardens? If it is truly that bad where is the PBA on this?

As to your comment on the pockets, I wouldn't be suprised if the AG took it from here to look into the pre-2006 distributions and those made by the CJC to the consultant for work that was not able to be completed because there was no system at the time.
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Anonymous

Open Sky and West Palm Beach

Postby Anonymous » Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:10 pm

We here in the Gardens have that ASSWIPE Ernie Carr to thank for this shitty system!! I hope the Ethics Commission findas out how much he, Delsa and some of these other non street cops got paid under the table to put our lives hanging by our asses!!! Very smart move by the new chief of wpb telling the consortium to stick it! You might get away with a crappy system here in the north end disney area but WPB, RB thats a different story, don't buy into the BS of Open Sky!
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Anonymous

Open Sky and West Palm Beach

Postby Anonymous » Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:27 pm

Police officers bill of rights, have any of these fukkin assholes heard of it? The military has that system where they can raise a red flag and not be punished for it.. can't we do the same if it's that big of a danger?
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Anonymous

Open Sky and West Palm Beach

Postby Anonymous » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:26 am

Guess this is coming from a person who has clearly never been in the military. I am a Ssgt, yeah privates and other serving have the right to speak out, however there will be chow hall duty, extra PT, latrine duty, painting rocks, police call of the base and lil man in the woods till their legs fall off. :&)
What west palm needs to do is a drug test on all the officers, give polygraph test and rid themselves of the sperm they have working there. <3 you cognetti, love when you like the tip after you swallow
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Anonymous

Open Sky and West Palm Beach

Postby Anonymous » Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:57 am

Where is my "Like" button?
[quote="Anonymous"]We here in the Gardens have that ASSWIPE Ernie Carr to thank for this shitty system!! I hope the Ethics Commission findas out how much he, Delsa and some of these other non street cops got paid under the table to put our lives hanging by our asses!!! Very smart move by the new chief of wpb telling the consortium to stick it! You might get away with a crappy system here in the north end disney area but WPB, RB thats a different story, don't buy into the BS of Open Sky![/quote]
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