You are all SHEEP

[Guest]

Every member of this debacle called the PBA is a sheep. You do nothing to your so called leaders who are under control of the Sheriff and any other politicians they decide to crawl in bed with. The best attorney they had was fired because he was faithful to the membership, not the Sheriff. Members have been boned by piss poor legal representation from outside lawyers. Your dues money is spent on private and personal items by the leaders, and by those politicians they determine are worthy. The budget is never released to the members because of this. The leaders change the rules to suit themselves at their whim. And you all do nothing but sit back and smile. You try to be bad asses on the streets because you think you are the alpha dogs of society, but sit back speechless here. You are SHEEP, bordering on COWARDS. Wake up and take control of this organization that the members are giving close to a quarter of a million dollars a month, thats right .. a quarter of a million dollars a month of your hard earned money goes into the coffers of this so called union. It's your money. Know where it is going, how they are spending it. Take control of YOUR organization. This is not John Kazajians or Ernie Georges organization, this is YOUR organization. Stop sitting back. Stop being quiet. Do something.

[Guest]

You are absolutely positively right. Nice try trying to rally the troops, really. But its hopeless. Look at the facts. 1) Lippman was the best police union lawyer in this county and Martin county and maybe even in the whole friggin state. 2) Kaz flat out admitted to gossip writer Lambiet that he fired Lippman right after Sheriff Bradshaw called him. 3) Kaz admitted Bradshaw called him about a letter Lippman wrote in defending a Sheriff's Office PBA member Bradshaw wanted to terminate. 4) Kaz admitted he fired Lippman over the letter Bradshaw called him about. 5) No PBA member in this county or in Martin County will ever get to have Lippman defend them again. 6) No PBA representatives on the PBA "Board of Directors" or PBA members in this county or Martin county have done anything about Kaz firing Lippman (or even asking Kaz to see the letter Lippman wrote)! So sad. Just lay back and enjoy the barbeque.

[Guest]

Kazanjian is going to be done with his DROP and leave PBSO within the next 60 days. He made himself a "Life Member" of the PBA awhile back, and changed the PBA Constitution Bylaws so that a "Life Member" can hold elected office with the PBA, can vote at Board meetings, and never ever have to pay dues. Ernie George is a "Life Member" too. Will some stooge need to make a motion at the next meeting that Kaz stay on as president, or will it just happen automatically when Bradshaw gives Kaz his free retiree SUV? Will the sheep allow themselves to be sheared some more?

[IA Retired]

I'm betting on the sheep-ish. Long live PBA President For Life Kaz!

[BradshawR@pba.org]

At the next PBA meeting coming up in September I'm going to make the motion myself that Kaz stay on as PBA President for Life. I better get a "second" from somebody. After all Kaz's done for me? He deserves that new PBA salary he came up with for himself and the VEBA just for firing Lippman. In fact, I'm going to raise the Career Deputy II, Step he'll be making to an even $100,000.00, and I've got a special brand new PBSO SUV Porsche Cayenne to give Kaz as a going-away-but-staying-at-the-PBA gift. Gotta love this union business!

[Guest]

Somebody's got to post what Lippman wrote that Bradshaw got him fired for. The sheriff's office IA case # is 14-050 and the IA sergeant was Combs, not Arbor. PBA members should see why Bradshaw went nuts and made sure that Kaz replaced union Attorney Lippman with a lawyer with no union experience. Kaz sure isn't going to post the thing.

[D1DS]

I know Gary. He wouldn't have written anything that wasn't true. And anything he wrote would a been copied to Kaz and to Stokes. There's a stench coming off the whole way our sheriff got Lippman fired by our "union". This was maybe the dirtiest deal Kaz ever made with Bradshaw. He sold out every PBA member and he will never come clean about it. Post the letter for all to see what a corrupt union president does to a good union lawyer.

[Guest]

I'm more affected by my employer being able to get my union lawyer fired then who Gunner's father is. Corrupt connections between the PBA president and Bradshaw are a bigger deal.

[id#@pbso]

Not a big deal unless your a PBSO member getting targeted. When your targeted and get assigned a PBA lawyer since the Sheriff got Kaz to fire Gary Lippman means getting a PBA lawyer that won't fight. Like Fagan. He'll tell you "just take it and try to stay under the radar". That's why I always got Gary. Its sad that nobody did anything about it. Not a big deal unless your a PBSO member getting targeted.

[Guest]

Sheep are for shearing and can be quite tasty when they're young little lambs. To all you PBA Members assigned the PBA lawyers that Kaz replaced Lippman with: Thank you for your sacrifice. Everybody else: Stay low until those newbies have 10 or 15 years under their belts.

[guest]

Every member of this debacle called the PBA is a sheep. You do nothing to your so called leaders who are under control of the Sheriff and any other politicians they decide to crawl in bed with. The best attorney they had was fired because he was faithful to the membership, not the Sheriff. Members have been boned by piss poor legal representation from outside lawyers. Your dues money is spent on private and personal items by the leaders, and by those politicians they determine are worthy. The budget is never released to the members because of this. The leaders change the rules to suit themselves at their whim. And you all do nothing but sit back and smile. You try to be bad asses on the streets because you think you are the alpha dogs of society, but sit back speechless here. You are SHEEP, bordering on COWARDS. Wake up and take control of this organization that the members are giving close to a quarter of a million dollars a month, thats right .. a quarter of a million dollars a month of your hard earned money goes into the coffers of this so called union. It's your money. Know where it is going, how they are spending it. Take control of YOUR organization. This is not John Kazajians or Ernie Georges organization, this is YOUR organization. Stop sitting back. Stop being quiet. Do something.

[Guest]

You are absolutely positively right. Nice try trying to rally the troops, really. But its hopeless. Look at the facts. 1) Lippman was the best police union lawyer in this county and Martin county and maybe even in the whole friggin state. 2) Kaz flat out admitted to gossip writer Lambiet that he fired Lippman right after Sheriff Bradshaw called him. 3) Kaz admitted Bradshaw called him about a letter Lippman wrote in defending a Sheriff's Office PBA member Bradshaw wanted to terminate. 4) Kaz admitted he fired Lippman over the letter Bradshaw called him about. 5) No PBA member in this county or in Martin County will ever get to have Lippman defend them again. 6) No PBA representatives on the PBA "Board of Directors" or PBA members in this county or Martin county have done anything about Kaz firing Lippman (or even asking Kaz to see the letter Lippman wrote)! So sad. Just lay back and enjoy the barbeque.

The letter was posted here a long time ago and saved the guy's job. After Kaz fired Gary he put Bradshaw's picture on the cover of the PBA magazine. Those are the only 2 things you need to know. Is the bbq that good?

[Guest]

You are absolutely positively right. Nice try trying to rally the troops, really. But its hopeless. Look at the facts. 1) Lippman was the best police union lawyer in this county and Martin county and maybe even in the whole friggin state. 2) Kaz flat out admitted to gossip writer Lambiet that he fired Lippman right after Sheriff Bradshaw called him. 3) Kaz admitted Bradshaw called him about a letter Lippman wrote in defending a Sheriff's Office PBA member Bradshaw wanted to terminate. 4) Kaz admitted he fired Lippman over the letter Bradshaw called him about. 5) No PBA member in this county or in Martin County will ever get to have Lippman defend them again. 6) No PBA representatives on the PBA "Board of Directors" or PBA members in this county or Martin county have done anything about Kaz firing Lippman (or even asking Kaz to see the letter Lippman wrote)! So sad. Just lay back and enjoy the barbeque.

The letter was posted here a long time ago and saved the guy's job. After Kaz fired Gary he put Bradshaw's picture on the cover of the PBA magazine. Those are the only 2 things you need to know. Is the bbq that good?

If Kaz was just another moron getting his family jobs and looting the PBA member's money it wouldn't be as corrupt as doing all that and selling out the members who's money he's looting. The PBA needs to be tossed out of PBSO same as in Broward. Enough is enough.

[Guest]

You are absolutely positively right. Nice try trying to rally the troops, really. But its hopeless. Look at the facts. 1) Lippman was the best police union lawyer in this county and Martin county and maybe even in the whole friggin state. 2) Kaz flat out admitted to gossip writer Lambiet that he fired Lippman right after Sheriff Bradshaw called him. 3) Kaz admitted Bradshaw called him about a letter Lippman wrote in defending a Sheriff's Office PBA member Bradshaw wanted to terminate. 4) Kaz admitted he fired Lippman over the letter Bradshaw called him about. 5) No PBA member in this county or in Martin County will ever get to have Lippman defend them again. 6) No PBA representatives on the PBA "Board of Directors" or PBA members in this county or Martin county have done anything about Kaz firing Lippman (or even asking Kaz to see the letter Lippman wrote)! So sad. Just lay back and enjoy the barbeque.

The letter was posted here a long time ago and saved the guy's job. After Kaz fired Gary he put Bradshaw's picture on the cover of the PBA magazine. Those are the only 2 things you need to know. Is the bbq that good?

If Kaz was just another moron getting his family jobs and looting the PBA member's money it wouldn't be as corrupt as doing all that and selling out the members who's money he's looting. The PBA needs to be tossed out of PBSO same as in Broward. Enough is enough.

I never heard Kaz deny that he's spent thousands and thousands of dollars on the PBA credit card buying super expensive golf clubs, golf shirts, golf bags ect for himself and his buddies at the Kazanjian's family business, Whirlaway Golf Center in Methuen, Massachusetts that get delivered to the PBA. Check out Bradshaw's golf bag sometime.

[Guest]

You are absolutely positively right. Nice try trying to rally the troops, really. But its hopeless. Look at the facts. 1) Lippman was the best police union lawyer in this county and Martin county and maybe even in the whole friggin state. 2) Kaz flat out admitted to gossip writer Lambiet that he fired Lippman right after Sheriff Bradshaw called him. 3) Kaz admitted Bradshaw called him about a letter Lippman wrote in defending a Sheriff's Office PBA member Bradshaw wanted to terminate. 4) Kaz admitted he fired Lippman over the letter Bradshaw called him about. 5) No PBA member in this county or in Martin County will ever get to have Lippman defend them again. 6) No PBA representatives on the PBA "Board of Directors" or PBA members in this county or Martin county have done anything about Kaz firing Lippman (or even asking Kaz to see the letter Lippman wrote)! So sad. Just lay back and enjoy the barbeque.

The letter was posted here a long time ago and saved the guy's job. After Kaz fired Gary he put Bradshaw's picture on the cover of the PBA magazine. Those are the only 2 things you need to know. Is the bbq that good?

If Kaz was just another moron getting his family jobs and looting the PBA member's money it wouldn't be as corrupt as doing all that and selling out the members who's money he's looting. The PBA needs to be tossed out of PBSO same as in Broward. Enough is enough.

I never heard Kaz deny that he's spent thousands and thousands of dollars on the PBA credit card buying super expensive golf clubs, golf shirts, golf bags ect for himself and his buddies at the Kazanjian's family business, Whirlaway Golf Center in Methuen, Massachusetts that get delivered to the PBA. Check out Bradshaw's golf bag sometime.

Sounds like a job for Public Corruption.

[Guest]

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Whirlaway Golf Center, Inc. is a retail golf shop with a year round outdoor and indoor golf range. They sell golf equipment, have a pro shop, clothing and accessories. This business was established in 1972 and incorporated in 1980 in Massachusetts. They employ five people. Mr. Mark Kazanjian is the Owner of the business and any questions or problems should be directed to his attention.

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The only way records of Kaz's PBA credit card purchases at this place are going to come out is with a subpoena. Everybody working over at the PBA sees the boxes get delivered.

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Whirlaway Golf Center, Inc. is a retail golf shop with a year round outdoor and indoor golf range. They sell golf equipment, have a pro shop, clothing and accessories. This business was established in 1972 and incorporated in 1980 in Massachusetts. They employ five people. Mr. Mark Kazanjian is the Owner of the business and any questions or problems should be directed to his attention.

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The only way records of Kaz's PBA credit card purchases at this place are going to come out is with a subpoena. Everybody working over at the PBA sees the boxes get delivered.

Whoa!!! So this part of the stories about Kaz is true. How about a PBA audit now?

[Guest]

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What's $20,000 or $30,000 in PBA dues money spent on himself at his family's business when there's over $300,000 coming in every month. Bag of shells, brother. But keep paying those dues, there's more Kazanjians behind this one.
Overview
Whirlaway Golf Center, Inc. is a retail golf shop with a year round outdoor and indoor golf range. They sell golf equipment, have a pro shop, clothing and accessories. This business was established in 1972 and incorporated in 1980 in Massachusetts. They employ five people. Mr. Mark Kazanjian is the Owner of the business and any questions or problems should be directed to his attention.

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The only way records of Kaz's PBA credit card purchases at this place are going to come out is with a subpoena. Everybody working over at the PBA sees the boxes get delivered.

Whoa!!! So this part of the stories about Kaz is true. How about a PBA audit now?

[Guest]

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What's $20,000 or $30,000 in PBA dues money spent on himself at his family's business when there's over $300,000 coming in every month. Bag of shells, brother. But keep paying those dues, there's more Kazanjians behind this one.
Overview
Whirlaway Golf Center, Inc. is a retail golf shop with a year round outdoor and indoor golf range. They sell golf equipment, have a pro shop, clothing and accessories. This business was established in 1972 and incorporated in 1980 in Massachusetts. They employ five people. Mr. Mark Kazanjian is the Owner of the business and any questions or problems should be directed to his attention.

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The only way records of Kaz's PBA credit card purchases at this place are going to come out is with a subpoena. Everybody working over at the PBA sees the boxes get delivered.

Whoa!!! So this part of the stories about Kaz is true. How about a PBA audit now?

Between the PBA credit card purchases for himself and his buddies, including our own Sheriff Bradshaw over the last 12 years at Whirlaway Golf Center, plunking down that card for all the food, booze and cigars, the hotel rooms, green fees, meals for himself and picking up the tabs for family and friends with PBA charity "overhead" money at all the "charity" events, this guy easy has spent around a million dollars. Add to that the multiple salaries he never gets to spend, the wife's salary, the PBA vehicles, gasoline for those vehicles and fueling up his boat ("PBA business expense") and your talking another $3.5 million. And what are members getting out of this?

[IvanaChange@pba.now!]

Every member of this debacle called the PBA is a sheep. You do nothing to your so called leaders who are under control of the Sheriff and any other politicians they decide to crawl in bed with. The best attorney they had was fired because he was faithful to the membership, not the Sheriff. Members have been boned by piss poor legal representation from outside lawyers. Your dues money is spent on private and personal items by the leaders, and by those politicians they determine are worthy. The budget is never released to the members because of this. The leaders change the rules to suit themselves at their whim. And you all do nothing but sit back and smile. You try to be bad asses on the streets because you think you are the alpha dogs of society, but sit back speechless here. You are SHEEP, bordering on COWARDS. Wake up and take control of this organization that the members are giving close to a quarter of a million dollars a month, thats right .. a quarter of a million dollars a month of your hard earned money goes into the coffers of this so called union. It's your money. Know where it is going, how they are spending it. Take control of YOUR organization. This is not John Kazajians or Ernie Georges organization, this is YOUR organization. Stop sitting back. Stop being quiet. Do something.

Not going to happen because the elected PBA representatives are the only ones that can demand a audit or vote for PBA president or do anything to change things. Kaz has "appointed" so many of them (like Kaz Jr!!) and bought off the rest (like you don't know who I'm talking about?). Its more like $300,000 a month in PBA dues these guys are all playing with no accountability. Only power the membership has is to vote out the hole "union". That's what happened in Broward. All the deputies signed cards so they could vote in a new union and when the State Employees Commission set up the secret ballot vote the PBA down there lost big time. PBA bosses got kicked to the curb and choked on their cigars. PBA reps did nothing when Kaz fired Gary and they do nothing to stop the CORRUPTION happening right in front of them. Its all a big party. Until the PBA members get to vote. That's when a new union that's not in bed with the Sheriff can come in and that's when things will change. Just like in Broward

[Guest]

Every member of this debacle called the PBA is a sheep. You do nothing to your so called leaders who are under control of the Sheriff and any other politicians they decide to crawl in bed with. The best attorney they had was fired because he was faithful to the membership, not the Sheriff. Members have been boned by piss poor legal representation from outside lawyers. Your dues money is spent on private and personal items by the leaders, and by those politicians they determine are worthy. The budget is never released to the members because of this. The leaders change the rules to suit themselves at their whim. And you all do nothing but sit back and smile. You try to be bad asses on the streets because you think you are the alpha dogs of society, but sit back speechless here. You are SHEEP, bordering on COWARDS. Wake up and take control of this organization that the members are giving close to a quarter of a million dollars a month, thats right .. a quarter of a million dollars a month of your hard earned money goes into the coffers of this so called union. It's your money. Know where it is going, how they are spending it. Take control of YOUR organization. This is not John Kazajians or Ernie Georges organization, this is YOUR organization. Stop sitting back. Stop being quiet. Do something.

Not going to happen because the elected PBA representatives are the only ones that can demand a audit or vote for PBA president or do anything to change things. Kaz has "appointed" so many of them (like Kaz Jr!!) and bought off the rest (like you don't know who I'm talking about?). Its more like $300,000 a month in PBA dues these guys are all playing with no accountability. Only power the membership has is to vote out the hole "union". That's what happened in Broward. All the deputies signed cards so they could vote in a new union and when the State Employees Commission set up the secret ballot vote the PBA down there lost big time. PBA bosses got kicked to the curb and choked on their cigars. PBA reps did nothing when Kaz fired Gary and they do nothing to stop the CORRUPTION happening right in front of them. Its all a big party. Until the PBA members get to vote. That's when a new union that's not in bed with the Sheriff can come in and that's when things will change. Just like in Broward

Bradshaw won't stick around if he has to deal with a real UNION. Dealing with a real UNION LAWYER almost gave him a stroke. Once a real UNION comes in here and Bradshaw goes, all his good ol' boys aren't going to be protected by him and the PBA.

[Guest]

Every member of this debacle called the PBA is a sheep. You do nothing to your so called leaders who are under control of the Sheriff and any other politicians they decide to crawl in bed with. The best attorney they had was fired because he was faithful to the membership, not the Sheriff. Members have been boned by piss poor legal representation from outside lawyers. Your dues money is spent on private and personal items by the leaders, and by those politicians they determine are worthy. The budget is never released to the members because of this. The leaders change the rules to suit themselves at their whim. And you all do nothing but sit back and smile. You try to be bad asses on the streets because you think you are the alpha dogs of society, but sit back speechless here. You are SHEEP, bordering on COWARDS. Wake up and take control of this organization that the members are giving close to a quarter of a million dollars a month, thats right .. a quarter of a million dollars a month of your hard earned money goes into the coffers of this so called union. It's your money. Know where it is going, how they are spending it. Take control of YOUR organization. This is not John Kazajians or Ernie Georges organization, this is YOUR organization. Stop sitting back. Stop being quiet. Do something.

Not going to happen because the elected PBA representatives are the only ones that can demand a audit or vote for PBA president or do anything to change things. Kaz has "appointed" so many of them (like Kaz Jr!!) and bought off the rest (like you don't know who I'm talking about?). Its more like $300,000 a month in PBA dues these guys are all playing with no accountability. Only power the membership has is to vote out the hole "union". That's what happened in Broward. All the deputies signed cards so they could vote in a new union and when the State Employees Commission set up the secret ballot vote the PBA down there lost big time. PBA bosses got kicked to the curb and choked on their cigars. PBA reps did nothing when Kaz fired Gary and they do nothing to stop the CORRUPTION happening right in front of them. Its all a big party. Until the PBA members get to vote. That's when a new union that's not in bed with the Sheriff can come in and that's when things will change. Just like in Broward

Bradshaw won't stick around if he has to deal with a real UNION. Dealing with a real UNION LAWYER almost gave him a stroke. Once a real UNION comes in here and Bradshaw goes, all his good ol' boys aren't going to be protected by him and the PBA.

When do I get to vote?

[Guest]

Every member of this debacle called the PBA is a sheep. You do nothing to your so called leaders who are under control of the Sheriff and any other politicians they decide to crawl in bed with. The best attorney they had was fired because he was faithful to the membership, not the Sheriff. Members have been boned by piss poor legal representation from outside lawyers. Your dues money is spent on private and personal items by the leaders, and by those politicians they determine are worthy. The budget is never released to the members because of this. The leaders change the rules to suit themselves at their whim. And you all do nothing but sit back and smile. You try to be bad asses on the streets because you think you are the alpha dogs of society, but sit back speechless here. You are SHEEP, bordering on COWARDS. Wake up and take control of this organization that the members are giving close to a quarter of a million dollars a month, thats right .. a quarter of a million dollars a month of your hard earned money goes into the coffers of this so called union. It's your money. Know where it is going, how they are spending it. Take control of YOUR organization. This is not John Kazajians or Ernie Georges organization, this is YOUR organization. Stop sitting back. Stop being quiet. Do something.

Not going to happen because the elected PBA representatives are the only ones that can demand a audit or vote for PBA president or do anything to change things. Kaz has "appointed" so many of them (like Kaz Jr!!) and bought off the rest (like you don't know who I'm talking about?). Its more like $300,000 a month in PBA dues these guys are all playing with no accountability. Only power the membership has is to vote out the hole "union". That's what happened in Broward. All the deputies signed cards so they could vote in a new union and when the State Employees Commission set up the secret ballot vote the PBA down there lost big time. PBA bosses got kicked to the curb and choked on their cigars. PBA reps did nothing when Kaz fired Gary and they do nothing to stop the CORRUPTION happening right in front of them. Its all a big party. Until the PBA members get to vote. That's when a new union that's not in bed with the Sheriff can come in and that's when things will change. Just like in Broward

Bradshaw won't stick around if he has to deal with a real UNION. Dealing with a real UNION LAWYER almost gave him a stroke. Once a real UNION comes in here and Bradshaw goes, all his good ol' boys aren't going to be protected by him and the PBA.

When do I get to vote?

When you get handed a card to sign that says you want a new union, you get a secret ballot election and its illegal for Kaz and Bradshaw to see who signed the cards and how you voted. PBA just got crushed in the Sheriff's Office in Daytona Beach and they are losing all over Florida for the same reasons they will lose here. Fat ass retired PBA presidents and executive directors running all of the county PBAs to loot the members money.

[Guest]

Every member of this debacle called the PBA is a sheep. You do nothing to your so called leaders who are under control of the Sheriff and any other politicians they decide to crawl in bed with. The best attorney they had was fired because he was faithful to the membership, not the Sheriff. Members have been boned by piss poor legal representation from outside lawyers. Your dues money is spent on private and personal items by the leaders, and by those politicians they determine are worthy. The budget is never released to the members because of this. The leaders change the rules to suit themselves at their whim. And you all do nothing but sit back and smile. You try to be bad asses on the streets because you think you are the alpha dogs of society, but sit back speechless here. You are SHEEP, bordering on COWARDS. Wake up and take control of this organization that the members are giving close to a quarter of a million dollars a month, thats right .. a quarter of a million dollars a month of your hard earned money goes into the coffers of this so called union. It's your money. Know where it is going, how they are spending it. Take control of YOUR organization. This is not John Kazajians or Ernie Georges organization, this is YOUR organization. Stop sitting back. Stop being quiet. Do something.

Not going to happen because the elected PBA representatives are the only ones that can demand a audit or vote for PBA president or do anything to change things. Kaz has "appointed" so many of them (like Kaz Jr!!) and bought off the rest (like you don't know who I'm talking about?). Its more like $300,000 a month in PBA dues these guys are all playing with no accountability. Only power the membership has is to vote out the hole "union". That's what happened in Broward. All the deputies signed cards so they could vote in a new union and when the State Employees Commission set up the secret ballot vote the PBA down there lost big time. PBA bosses got kicked to the curb and choked on their cigars. PBA reps did nothing when Kaz fired Gary and they do nothing to stop the CORRUPTION happening right in front of them. Its all a big party. Until the PBA members get to vote. That's when a new union that's not in bed with the Sheriff can come in and that's when things will change. Just like in Broward

Bradshaw won't stick around if he has to deal with a real UNION. Dealing with a real UNION LAWYER almost gave him a stroke. Once a real UNION comes in here and Bradshaw goes, all his good ol' boys aren't going to be protected by him and the PBA.

When do I get to vote?

When you get handed a card to sign that says you want a new union, you get a secret ballot election and its illegal for Kaz and Bradshaw to see who signed the cards and how you voted. PBA just got crushed in the Sheriff's Office in Daytona Beach and they are losing all over Florida for the same reasons they will lose here. Fat ass retired PBA presidents and executive directors running all of the county PBAs to loot the members money.

[Guest]

Got voted outta Sarasota PD too.

[Guest]

Someone said sounds like a job for public corruption unit. Well isn't that the biggest laugh of all. The state attorney handles public corruption. David Aronberg is the SA and he is a bigger criminal then most. He is tied up with Ernie and the boyz over at the PBA big time. Even if an investigation were to commence just to make it look good, Sergeant David Conklin from PBSO is TDY to the SA to oversee the public corruption unit. Conklin is the biggest kiss ass that ever lived. He would get his orders from the Sheriff and would only be more then happy to oblige whatever he wanted...like he has always done.

When Conklin was on the road we called him One Call Conklin because he would get his one call of the night and be busy with it the rest of the shift. When he became a detective he was call One Case Conklin because he handled his one case for the month. David was never too shy to screw the guy next to him if he thought that would get him a head...and he did so numerous times. Do you really want Public Corruption to know you initiated the case so they could eventually screw you? I don't think so.